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- From: bthompx@es.co.nz (NeuroMancer)
- Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.emulations,comp.sys.amiga.misc
- Subject: Re: There is *NO* Amiga....STOP IT NOW
- Date: 28 Feb 1996 05:34:41 GMT
- Organization: Efficient Software Internet Service
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- Eyal Teler, regarding your message ' Re: There is *NO* Amiga....STOP IT NOW' -
-
- (Eyal, this is more aimed at the amiga community at large - but it was your
- message which got me thinking :-) ).
-
- >Anyway, I'm glad it's here, because then people like me, who now have a PC,
- >but still like the Amiga, hang in Amiga groups and not in UNIX groups.
-
- I see this again and agian. It seems there is something good about amigados
- that keeps even 'deserters' interested...
-
- It's sad, but unless AT does something real good (and suitably affordable),
- I'll be forced to go to the PC also. I would like to see amigados
- re-written so it could run on any PPC platform (or better, a version for
- all the decent CPU's - maybe even the pentium Pro ?).
-
- I fear that AT will make amigados dependant on custom hardware (as opposed
- to just being able to use it), and the amiga will be significantly
- over-priced all over again.
-
- I look at these super-cheap Pentium pc's, and feel sad that we cannot get
- that sort of cpu power for that sort of price. I do not like msdos, nor do
- I like unix much more. I would like to be able to run amigados on one of
- these fast cpu's - or even better, on a fast PPC chip. I still belive that
- amigados has advantages over other operating systems, and if given a chance
- and handled properly, more people would know that. Amigados will run in a
- couple of megs ram, and only needs a small HD to be truly useful. It's
- fast, tight, and effecient. It seems quite modular (and could easily be
- more so), and has a usable selection of software. And more.
-
- I also fear that while the Power PC chip is good, it is not good enough. I
- see tests where it is consistantly at the 'low end' of the new cpu's. Chips
- made by MIPS, HP, and yes, even Intel, come in as faster. Is the PPC chip
- significantly better price/performance ? Or are we being lumped with a
- second generation dead end ?
-
- Perhaps amigaos could be made hardware independant ? Like, but better than,
- windoze NT ? So you could choose any hardware you like (not just ppc/68k) -
- as long as there were hardware 'modules' for it.. I think it could work,
- and be quite fast even. The key parts of the os (those used most often -
- inc. the 'virtual cpu') would be moved off into a 'hardware module',
- while the bulk of the OS would run as some sort of virtual CPU code. Just
- plain 68k emulation might do for the v-cpu, for a year or so...
-
-
- How well AT does the PPC amiga, how fast it is, and how cheap it is, will
- dictate my future with AmigaOS. Ideally, I'd have a SGI; or (dreaming now!)
- a supercomputer :-). But I can't for the same reason I might not get a
- future amiga: Price. As nice as amigaOS is, it's been knocked around and
- mauled by Commodore, ignored by much of the computer industry, and left for
- dead for more than a year. I don't know - perhaps all of that has been the
- death of it (sad), and we are more like a few surviving citizens of Rome
- trying to teach the barbarians the fine arts and sciences... Old Pope Gates
- will likly bring about a computer 'Dark Ages'...
-
- What do you all think ?
-
- I hope amigaOS survives, but I am starting to think it won't, and I will be
- forced to use a less ideal computer os.. I am not sure AT has the smarts to
- outwit pope gates and his billions, or profiteer barons and their asian
- clone companies..
-
- Well, A few more months should tell us all if AT is not another commodore.
-
- >Besides, this emulator also has DOS and Mac versions, apparently (anyone
- >checked the Mac one yet? Should have less problem with CPU emulation).
-
- Is there going to be an amiga version of the amiga emulator ? :-)
-
- The emulator is a start, but I would like to see a proper version of
- amigados for all platforms. If Pope Bill can do it with a bloated windoze
- NT, I think AT can do it with amigados - even if it costs a bit of backward
- compatibility. Do we want amigados for a couple more years, or the next 20
- ?
-
- ...... Brendan
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